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Zozobra

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LND150 Jose style preamp
« on: June 27, 2019, 11:56:19 AM »
Hi folks,

I've been pushing the peas around the plate on an LND150 version of some of the newer Jose style diode clipper amps based on KMGs work.  This is loosely based on Ch.2 of the Butterslax.  I'm handling the output buffer on a second board using a quad channel opamp so that I can add in an active Baxandall tonestack should I decide to use an SS poweramp and want pseudo presence & depth controls.

Here is what I have thus far.  Comments and criticism welcome :)



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Re: LND150 Jose style preamp
« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2019, 01:40:02 PM »
It looks to me like your signal is shorted to ground at R32. There's no signal going in to R33 as that's a ground node. I think R33 should come off D23.
Also might want to add a 1M to ground before R5 to set input impedance.
« Last Edit: July 09, 2019, 02:36:04 PM by Heph333 »

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Re: LND150 Jose style preamp
« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2019, 10:34:50 AM »
The junction od D23 and R32 i the point where R33 should be attached, not to ground, the purpose of C19 and R33 is to isolate dc from follower(which is about 150-200VDC) from clipping diodes, so they will survive, and create clipping in the signal. Also I would advise to change C19 to about 220-680nF(at aleast 250VDC rating).

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Re: LND150 Jose style preamp
« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2019, 05:42:06 AM »
Good spot guys, thanks.  Tired eyes and over-familiarity and all that and a botched job of porting from LTSpice!  Not sure how i managed that goof but I did  xP

I should note that the schematic here is just showing the on-board stuff.  There would be a 1M impedance reference mounted to the input jack socket.

I am going to play around with the value of C19 as I know it has quite an impact on the character of the diode clipping.  100n is just what is commonly used.

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Re: LND150 Jose style preamp
« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2019, 09:03:12 PM »
There is something wrong with the footprint of the electrolytic caps,, the square pad is usually the positive terminal?? :o

Oh BTW,,, I hope you intend to Bread board this long before you etch a PCB... Cause there is a whole lot more to building such a design than just cramming everything onto a blank with no understanding of all the pitfalls of Hi Z circuits. Layout is key to low noise/hum.

I fixed a Fender Pro Junior some years back as it had a gawd damn awful hum. :grr
Tracked it down to the input of the second stage track running right beside the B+ track. Which goes to prove even the biggest names on the planet who you would think should know by now that it would cause a major hum issue?  but obviously NO :duh :duh :duh :duh xP xP xP :loco :loco :loco
Nothing wrong with PCB's but once etched and populated it's a nightmare to fix any major design flaws. :grr

BBoard test it first will tell you how to do layout the PCB tracks. (Hint) 8)
As the old saying goes "More haste = less speed" :lmao:
Phil.

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Re: LND150 Jose style preamp
« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2019, 05:27:11 AM »
I'm not too sure what happened with the electrolytic footprint.  In any case, I've made my own footprint conforming to convention.

My concern with breadboarding this is that several parts of this circuit have some rather high voltages on them.  Way higher than I'd be comfortable using on a breadboard.  I know it may seem wasteful but ten boards shipped from a Chinese fab house will only run me for $10 so if it's trash then it's trash!  I have a good few more hours of checking and fiddling before I pull the trigger on this anyway and right now I'm more interested in op amp preamps a la Randall/Orange and they can definitely be tinkered with on a breadboard  :cheesy:

 

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