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#1
Amplifier Discussion / Re: Sun Coliseum Problem
May 04, 2012, 09:39:51 PM
FIXED!  Put all the right parts in all the right places.  Thanks to all who helped.  I guess the initial problem was a blown transistor and zener.  Hopefully those diagrams on the web will help others with the same board.
#2
Amplifier Discussion / Re: Sun Coliseum Problem
May 04, 2012, 06:09:30 PM
that looks like it!  I also did some snooping with the number written on the power board and got the info that the 20-0166 board was based on a Beta, this also looks very similar- http://sunn.ampage.org/site/svcmans/beta/ 

I will investigate closer when I get home.

Thanks for the info, very helpful to say the least.
#3
Amplifier Discussion / Re: Sun Coliseum Problem
May 04, 2012, 03:41:30 PM
would it be worth calling up here http://www.sunnamps.com/manuals.html and seeing if for $5 they might be able to dig up and mail me a schematic?
#4
Amplifier Discussion / Re: Sun Coliseum Problem
May 04, 2012, 08:17:14 AM
Well now it seems like I'm the dummy.  There were a few different part numbers/brands so I figured someone replaced a couple parts before and because of the schematic and previous solid states I fixed, I figured all the main transistors would be the same.  Obviously not.  In the one pic you can see the original 4 that all have the same part # except the one on the left that's slightly different.  In the other pic you can see the other brand next to an example of the new 6 I put in.

Now the question is where do I get the right schematic to get all the right parts in the right places?!  I searched for a while but did not find my model style on the web.  I can probably assume that the 4 matching transistors go to the .33ohm resistors and the two matching go to the other two spots on the board.  I still don't know the value of the resistor that originally burnt (though it still reads 14ohms, who knows if that's the original value)

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7129/7141712319_49f09ab9f6_b.jpg
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8154/7141712727_054eda261c_b.jpg

Yes those pics do look exactly like my head, so I guess it's the 80's model. 

What a nightmare, wish I had the right schemo from the beginning.

#5
Amplifier Discussion / Re: Sun Coliseum Problem
May 03, 2012, 09:31:52 PM
#6
Amplifier Discussion / Re: Sun Coliseum Problem
May 03, 2012, 08:33:26 AM
I have 6 transistors.  4 are linked to .33ohm resistors and two are not.  The other three 5 watt resistors are 150ohm, 150ohm, and 2ohm and none of the last two emitters are hooked directly to them.  Here are pics marking my .33ohms in red, my replacement parts in green, and the resistor I'm not sure of the value because it was smoked in yellow.  I didn't want to blow up this board (message board i mean) so here are the links-

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7085/6992562562_18b3429d6d_b.jpg
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8011/7138643515_431cb5b961_b.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7190/6992561308_b8017cab8d_b.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7239/7138639987_b865f8f6bc_b.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7264/7138639955_685afb8fec_b.jpg

Also, thank you so far for the advice, I appreciate it!
#7
Amplifier Discussion / Re: Sun Coliseum Problem
May 02, 2012, 11:08:29 PM
I replaced all the MJ15022G's (the large ones).  One MJ15028C (smaller transistor) was burned out and I replaced that.  One 1N4744A zener was shorted and I replaced that.  Then one of the new MJ15022G's burned out so I replaced it again. 

The only weird readings I get are two of the MJ15022G's test bad in circuit with the diode tester, but are fine when removed.  The other are two resistors that jump all over the place when read, not sure if it's because they are in circuit or not.  This is with the board pulled out of the rest of the amp. 

Unfortunately after looking over the diagram I have, it's too different from my amp to use.  There are 7 .33ohm resistors in the diagram and only 4 in my amp.  I can't match the circuit to tell what's what. 
#8
Amplifier Discussion / Re: Sun Coliseum Problem
May 02, 2012, 02:57:21 PM
I have been using the lightbulb limiter as I said before the light is dim when the output transformers are not hooked up but brightens when they are.  I also have a dummy load to hook it up to as well do I don't blow any unnecessary speakers.
#9
Amplifier Discussion / Re: Sun Coliseum Problem
May 02, 2012, 07:47:39 AM
will do when i get some time.  There is one component on the schematic not on the board- D.C. Offset.

Also, I replaced all of the large power transistors when I first started this project.  I just went over the board again and found a zener to be shorted that wasn't before.  I then checked the large transistors and sure enough one was shorted creating a short over the board.  Not sure if that was the cause of the problem or something else that caused the transistor to short.
#10
Amplifier Discussion / Re: Sun Coliseum Problem
May 02, 2012, 06:47:27 AM
http://www.richbriere.com/images/The_Su3.gif

this is one that has all the same components but everything is labeled different in numbers, which makes it difficult to see what the value of r47 or any other resistor should be besides the obvious .33ohm ones.  This is the sunn coliseum schematic that comes up in searches, not sure why it's incorrect.
#11
Amplifier Discussion / Sun Coliseum Problem
May 01, 2012, 11:10:29 PM
Hi,
I recently had my coliseum short out so I did a bunch of tests which lead me to a short somewhere in the output section where there is DC voltage being output on the speaker cable.

I found a shorted transistor and a zener diode and replaced both.  I also replaced the IC just for good measure.  I still get a semi bright light with the light bulb limiter when everything is hooked up and a dim one when the output section is taken out.  I've checked all the caps, resistors, diodes, and transistors and can't find anything shorted.

When plugging it into the wall it smoked R47.  I haven't touched the bias pot.  Any ideas?