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Title: i have a question about the Marshall?
Post by: Dylan on May 04, 2009, 04:52:50 AM
Hi all!
  Why we can get mashall's cuicuit diagrams?i think  the diagrams are the secrets of the company.
If we all have mashall's diagram and  we all can build AMPs like marshall.Who will buy  marshall?

:loco
Title: Re: i have a question about the Marshall?
Post by: teemuk on May 04, 2009, 05:30:20 AM
A complete product is much, much more than a circuit diagram.
Title: Re: i have a question about the Marshall?
Post by: Enzo on May 04, 2009, 10:19:59 PM
teemuk is certainly correct.

Not only that, but Marshall schematics are readily available.
Title: Re: i have a question about the Marshall?
Post by: Dylan on May 05, 2009, 01:26:17 AM
Quote from: Enzo on May 04, 2009, 10:19:59 PM
teemuk is certainly correct.

Not only that, but Marshall schematics are readily available.
what's the different between schematics and circuit diagram?
Title: Re: i have a question about the Marshall?
Post by: Enzo on May 06, 2009, 08:17:48 PM
None that I know of.
Title: Re: i have a question about the Marshall?
Post by: valdiorn on May 09, 2009, 02:12:57 PM
Circuit designs are actually not protected by copyright, unless you design something that is considered new technology and you patent it. Most of the circuitry in Marshalls is based on designs and technology that date back to before 1950, so it can not be patented because it's pretty much considered "common knowledge" for electrical engineers.

A circuit is just like a recipe for baking a cake. But have you ever had the same kind of cake, baked by two different individuals? they taste different because everyone uses their own methods of making it, even if the recipe is the same.

Also, building an amplifier is not something everyone can do, it takes time and skill, and sometimes a company like Marshall can just do a better job for less money than you ever could. (getting back to the cake analogy, why do we have bakeries if we can all bake our own cakes?? Well, because they make some fine cake, and maybe we just want a damn cake without the hassle of making it :))
Title: Re: i have a question about the Marshall?
Post by: Dylan on May 09, 2009, 09:47:45 PM
Quote from: valdiorn on May 09, 2009, 02:12:57 PM
Circuit designs are actually not protected by copyright, unless you design something that is considered new technology and you patent it. Most of the circuitry in Marshalls is based on designs and technology that date back to before 1950, so it can not be patented because it's pretty much considered "common knowledge" for electrical engineers.

A circuit is just like a recipe for baking a cake. But have you ever had the same kind of cake, baked by two different individuals? they taste different because everyone uses their own methods of making it, even if the recipe is the same.

Also, building an amplifier is not something everyone can do, it takes time and skill, and sometimes a company like Marshall can just do a better job for less money than you ever could. (getting back to the cake analogy, why do we have bakeries if we can all bake our own cakes?? Well, because they make some fine cake, and maybe we just want a damn cake without the hassle of making it :))
Thank you very much! :)
different engineers ,different workmanship.
Title: Re: i have a question about the Marshall?
Post by: Enzo on May 11, 2009, 09:45:54 PM
You can copyright your schematic though.  Redraw it and you are OK.
Title: Re: i have a question about the Marshall?
Post by: Dylan on May 12, 2009, 07:17:53 AM
Quote from: Enzo on May 11, 2009, 09:45:54 PM
You can copyright your schematic though.  Redraw it and you are OK.
thax you!!!
Title: Re: i have a question about the Marshall?
Post by: airport on May 13, 2009, 01:54:21 PM
Quote from: Enzo on May 04, 2009, 10:19:59 PM
teemuk is certainly correct.

Not only that, but Marshall schematics are readily available.

Where can somebody go to get a SS Marshall schematic?
Thanks for the help.
Title: Re: i have a question about the Marshall?
Post by: iTzALLgoOD on May 13, 2009, 02:58:50 PM
www.schematicheaven.com

Good luck
Title: Re: i have a question about the Marshall?
Post by: airport on May 13, 2009, 06:50:38 PM
Quote from: iTzALLgoOD on May 13, 2009, 02:58:50 PM
www.schematicheaven.com

Good luck
Thanks for the tip.  SH and Dr Tube were the first sites I tried, and then many others.  They do list some of the SS Marshall's, but not the  ValveState 2000 AVT50.  Thanks for your efforts.