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Fender 112 Deluxe Plus

Started by FenderDeluxe112Plus, April 12, 2022, 04:39:01 PM

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FenderDeluxe112Plus

Thanks,

Tp16 (U1 pin 7) and Tp17 (U1 pin 4) give the expected voltages of +25.7 vdc and -25.7 vdc.
 
Could the U1 still be causing problems?


phatt


Yes it's possible when the power Tr's blew it also effected U1.

U1 is the power stage input, those 4 Pwr Tr's boost the current needed to drive the speaker so both U1 and Pwr tr's could have failed.
The other 2 tr's (Q8 & Q9 I think) are part of the over current protection. 

Now assuming none of the passives or Q8&Q9 are at fault then replacing U1 Should fix the problem.

Hopefully others more qualified will chime in,, if I've missed something.

As you have noted that plugging into the Pwr Amp input still sounds distorted then the Power stage is most likely at fault.

If you want to check if the preamp is working normally then take the Preamp output to another amp (if you have one) if that produces the same Buzz then the problem maybe further up stream in the signal path.
Phil.

g1

As real MC1436 are hard to find, and I think the circuit is picky about the exact part, post your DC voltages for U1, pins 2,3, and 6.

FenderDeluxe112Plus

Thanks, will do. I do have an Mc1436 in my parts box from a supplier that I have bought good components from in the past. Can I test it in any way to check if it would be suitable?

joecool85

Quote from: FenderDeluxe112Plus on May 03, 2022, 03:57:37 PMThanks, will do. I do have an Mc1436 in my parts box from a supplier that I have bought good components from in the past. Can I test it in any way to check if it would be suitable?

Throw in a socket on the board and then try it.  If it works, you can leave it in the socket, if not, take it out :-)
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FenderDeluxe112Plus

Hi all,
I have finally got the amp out to work on again.I have installed an ic socket as suggested by Joe. Unfortunately the solder pad for pin 8 has lifted. Am I right in thinking this is not a problem as it is not on diagram?

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willpirkle

For the MC1436, pin 8 is a no-connect (N.C.) so you can ignore a connection there.

However, be careful. Often, the supply pins are omitted from the main schematic page(s) because layout techs usually put all the op-amp power supply connections and all of their bypass caps in one area, usually separated from the other pages. This makes the schematic cleaner and easier to read, but can be easily mis-interpreted.

- Will