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Title: fender deluxe 112 plus- loud humm
Post by: cwpeters on October 19, 2007, 11:00:08 PM
Ive been working on a fender deluxe 112 plus -which has a loud humm as soon you turn it on.  with or without guitar plugged in or volume turned up.  The two large capacitors 50v- 4700 uf seemed to move alittle bit.  While the amp was on I moved the two capacitors which were connected together with a hot glue gun, and the hum stopped. I took both the capacitors out, checked them with a multimeter.  they seemed to be charging with the multimeter set on 20k ohms.  So I cleaned them up,along with the holes they went through, put alittle soldering paste on them and resolderd them back onto the board.  When I turned the power on, the hum was gone but I could hear another noise and then 30 seconds later the fuse blew. I dont think I shorted anything out with solder paste, if you even can,  but the noise I was hearing could have been the sizzle of soldering paste.  After the fuse blew, I shut off the amp, unplugged it and touched the capacitors and the were very hot.  Almost to hot to touch.  What damage could I have done?  Did I do the right thing? Any other thing I should be checking?  ect.
Title: Re: fender deluxe 112 plus- loud humm
Post by: joecool85 on October 20, 2007, 07:54:14 AM
Sounds like you put the caps in backwards.
Title: Re: fender deluxe 112 plus- loud humm
Post by: LJ King on October 20, 2007, 04:12:17 PM
Quote from: joecool85 on October 20, 2007, 07:54:14 AM
Sounds like you put the caps in backwards.

+1.

And very lucky they didn't explode all over you.
Title: Re: fender deluxe 112 plus- loud humm
Post by: cwpeters on October 20, 2007, 06:45:16 PM
I just took it back apart and desolderd the caps.  I did put them in right.  I tested them again with my Dmm.  What other tests can I do on these caps to check their condition?
I had the schemadic once but cant find it and dont remember where I downloaded it from.  I've been to schematic heaven and the fender field guide but neither has this schematic.  Any sites I should try?  The board felt dry, I dont know if the paste I used could have squished together when I pushed the capacitors down on them to short out the caps.  Any paste would have to be a good electrical conductor, wouldnt it?  Dont know what I did wrong maybe I hooked one of the power lines on wrong.  I really dont think so but Im going to find the schematic and double check everything before I try to plug it in again. 
Title: Re: fender deluxe 112 plus- loud humm
Post by: LJ King on October 20, 2007, 07:12:36 PM

What solder paste are you talking about?

Flux?

Flux is essentially a cleaning agent. I've never thought about it being electrically conductive. Can't answer that.

With rosin core solder I've never had to use any extra flux for any electrical connection.
Title: Re: fender deluxe 112 plus- loud humm
Post by: teemuk on October 20, 2007, 08:08:37 PM
I believe the schematic can be found from Fender's website under the section titled "support - amplifier schematics". If not, PM me.
Title: Re: fender deluxe 112 plus- loud humm
Post by: tonyharker on October 21, 2007, 05:59:26 AM
With that large amount of hum, and the Caps getting hot it could be that the rectifier is (partly) shorted and you are getting a high ac ripple.  Check it out using the diode function on your DMM.
Title: Re: fender deluxe 112 plus- loud humm
Post by: obelix on November 01, 2007, 04:57:23 AM
for the schematics try this site http://www.bnv-gz.de/~ooehmann/dexer.php?d=fender