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Filtering frequency revisited

Started by saturated, January 01, 2025, 10:09:17 PM

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saturated

Made another go at this since I worked a few chapters in my text book

Wiring this old artifact ballast in series with a 1000 ohm resistor and putting variable frequency through it.  With predictable results  :tu:

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So now when people see me wandering around wondering what I'm thinking about it's gonna be....."so the resistance of the inductor (ballast) goes up..... :lmao:

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and make stupid mistakes

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saturated

I remembered I had a monster choke so I went and grabbed it and repeated the tests
:loco

The results were not what I expected it is such a beast I figured it would have crazy reactance a lower frequency

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But it let me go much higher

 xP

I have a lot to 💬 ponder  :'(



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saturated

#2
Btw I used an atlas lcr45 on the ballast it measured about 755 mH

So on the label on the monster choke I guess hys means Henrys then it's 5 mH  :loco

I have very small 10 and 15 mH inductors so why is a 5 mH so big and heavy 🪨  :grr

Edit: because it can handle 22.5 amps and 1500 volts
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saturated

So then I'm doing a bunch of problems where the output voltage ⚡ is divided by the input voltage at different frequencies and do some more calculations with logarithms etc and it gives me the frequency response (?).....in decibels...?

I thought decibels was like dude how loud 🔊📢 is stuff.  Like a 70s Who concert or 707 taking off.

Oh well back to the grind  xP
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saturated

I'm doing lots of the same stuff over and over with resistors capacitaters and inductors  :tu:

I've been impressed with this hobby that experimental results closely match calculations.

However I'm wondering if there is a limit to how accurately my multimeter can measure ac voltage ⚡ drops (rms) at different frequencies....like 20 khz

Oh well I guess that's why we have oscilloscopes (Vp-p)

Or bench multimeters ?  xP

I'm sure it would be cool 😎 to have a bench meter but I certainly don't need voltage to twenty decimal places or a real earth ground (thanks G1  :tu: )
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g1

Your meter should have a spec for the AC volts range as far as frequency response.
My true RMS meter says 45Hz to 2Khz.  A lot of them are just for measuring AC volts in the 60 to 100Hz area.
Yes, scope is best bet for higher freqs.

saturated

Here is an 🥼🧪 experiment I just did

I was really impressed how the measured hung right in there with the calculated

Unfortunately at 50 khz it went out the window
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Here is the "schematic"  :lmao:

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I know

I should have remeasured everything with my scope.   :grr
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saturated

Ok I went and redid the experiment this time using my scope to measure the voltage drop across the resistor at different frequencies and got some good results  :tu:
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gratuitous scope pic

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 xP

So all I need now is a gif of Keanu going
"DUDE.....your meter can't handle it "

 :loco
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