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#16
Amplifier Discussion / Re: Trace elliot speed twin c100
November 19, 2024, 05:41:13 AM
Welcome to the forum  :dbtu:
#17
The Newcomer's Forum / Re: Dukane content
November 18, 2024, 08:30:46 PM
Ok it seems the unprovoked appearance of the jackhammer speaker is pulsating bipolar DC.

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I had turned it off conne my meter turned it back on played for a bit wondering if it would happen again and it did.  Out of nowhere starts pulsating like 90 bpm and the values on the meter jump all around POS and neg.

Not too worried about now but it's interesting must be a bad component somewhere.

Pretty wild I have never seen anything like that.  It wasn't loud just the speaker cone moving in and out .    :lmao:
#18
The Newcomer's Forum / Re: Dukane content
November 18, 2024, 08:07:52 PM
There is yet more Dukane content  :loco

I wanted to try a guitar thru it so I used a speaker out of a three way stereo speaker system
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Or if you prefer
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and ran preamp out of the Peavey Rage 108

(with the Peavey speaker disconnected)

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I played for a while and was taking a break suddenly the speaker started pulsating real bad  :grr I turned the Peavey off still pulsating I'm guessing after having been on for a while some DC made it through (just a guess...I'm fixing to check it)



#19
The Newcomer's Forum / Re: Dukane content
November 16, 2024, 09:38:48 PM
Ok it was a frustrating evening but it ended somewhat in victory  :tu:

I wanted to decipher this enigma machine and play something through it. 
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I started out probing connections and turning selector switches etc while in continuity test and a couple times heard a faint sound or two, not from the multimeter but like the speaker was getting DC or something.  Finally I just turned on an amp and tuner
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ran some speaker wires and got really frustrated couldnt get sound whatsoever.  It's one speaker with two transformers and that was daunting but I looked and the end of the road on each side was normal speaker inputs a pair on each side.  Connecting speaker wires to them got sound  :tu:
So I went back to the array of terminals on the back and couldn't get anything at all.
I finally connected 1 khz tone and managed to get sound then removed that and added a pair of speaker wires to each side and it works  :grr

At one time I wondered if the output from the amp/tuner wasn't strong enough to barrel through the transformer(s) but it sounds good now.

However the volume knob on the amp is like half way and that would be very loud with the normal 8ohm speakers.

Right now I'm listening to a college football game at mild volume.

It's been a busy day but it's cool playing around with this stuff  :loco

Before I hit post I was like woah see if the meters are working and when i turned it around they were pegged all the way to the right  :grr
In a frantic attempt to remedy that I noticed the level controls on the front of the panel didnt seem to do anything

Finally turning it down at the amp got them down a little.  You cannot view this attachment.

But they are still bouncing in the red like mad and it's not loud at all....idk
#20
The Newcomer's Forum / Re: Dukane content
November 15, 2024, 08:25:33 PM
I have to say that observing the signal in and signal out was a major epiphany (?) for me.  It actually blew my mind.
I know it sounds simple of course if you asked anybody what an amplifier does they would laugh and give an obvious (an correct) answer.
Something small (quiet) goes in and something big (loud) comes out.  Easy enough right  8|

But to see the same sin or sawtooth emerge from the output multiple times larger to where the entire thing wasn't visible until a different scale was used....ok that was a trip.  :dbtu:

And I'm not saying I know how it does it because I don't yet but many times I lose focus and don't grasp what is happening and well 🙈 seeing is believing  :tu:
#21
The Newcomer's Forum / Re: Dukane content
November 12, 2024, 02:52:19 PM
When I was adjusting the signal level I had to act like a safecracker gingerly making infinitesimal adjustments or the whole thing would go out the window  :grr

There was definitely a sweet spot that needed to be adhered to.

Btw pretty cool I had not seen this before and noticed it earlier  xP

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#22
The Newcomer's Forum / Re: Dukane content
November 12, 2024, 02:34:23 PM
Hey gotta love noobies making things more complicated  :dbtu: so I decided to try and get some scope images

The smaller one (output) is channel 2 and had to put it on 10x and big volts per div
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 8|

I am forced to realize that this device is capable of increasing signal.  And chopping the end of its peaks off as well.

#23
The Newcomer's Forum / Re: Dukane content
November 12, 2024, 02:02:35 PM
Okay I ran it thru an 8 ohm speaker and it works pretty good

But I'm perplexed that a square wave and sawtooth sound kinda the same as the sin  :loco
#24
The Newcomer's Forum / Re: Dukane content
November 12, 2024, 01:43:40 PM
Resistance values obtained
Basically about 2.5 ohm between the bottom three pairs and lower between 7-8
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The jumpered resistance maybe means they are in parallel? Idk
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Anyhow I still need to hook up a speaker and try it jumpered.

 :-X
#25
The Newcomer's Forum / Re: Dukane content
November 12, 2024, 12:39:28 PM
Anyhow being conscious that we needed info on the transformer(s) it dawned on me that I could look inside and maybe get some info

Front cover off
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Unfortunately the bottom of the chassis obscures any viewing and surprise looks like an additional transformer
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Bottom of small transformer more Dukane numbers
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Right side
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I thought it was a trip they had a light bulb inside if nobody could see it pulled it out looks open it did not illuminate
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But then I saw the orange lense on the front cover
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But anyhow sir thanks for the assignment will get that for you  :tu:


#26
The Newcomer's Forum / Re: Dukane content
November 12, 2024, 12:29:48 PM
Thanks Boss Man  <3)  :dbtu:

I got to looking for some old manuals instructions catalogues online not much luck I did see one 1982 catalog for sale and the equipment looked different (more modern) than these so I'm guessing it's 70s or earlier

The guy I got it from bought tons of stuff at auction and much of it came from Lamar University in Beaumont it's very likely the source of this stuff.  Furthermore the old Lamar University yearbooks are scanned and viewable online (Texas Portal to History)...so I have looked and tried to find a pic of this in service but have yet to.

 :grr
#27
The Newcomer's Forum / Re: Dukane content
November 11, 2024, 08:28:02 PM
Ok I got some (crappy) voltage readings

I'm thinking most of this data is nonsense because (insert technical reason here: "second transformer needs current draw to turn on etc")

In summary voltages were all over the place under 10v I attempted to stabilize them by putting a 5.5M ohm resistor (then 10 ohm) across the terminals but didnt help.
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As a final hail Mary I jumpered 1-3-5 and 2-4-6 and got more nonsense....so idk  :grr

See some junk science tabulated here :

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Values were tough to approximate the readout really wouldn't stay put  :loco

And now looking at the picture apparently I have a green-blue-green resistor

 :P

#28
The Newcomer's Forum / Re: Dukane content
November 11, 2024, 01:07:59 PM
Yes sir thanks to all I plan to do all of that and I thank you for letting me enjoy the journey  :tu: one step at a time

 :dbtu:

I don't want to bombard everybody with questions but I was looking at something old to pair it up with...I saw many "🎤 microphone 🎙� preamps looks like they have weird input connectors i don't think a mic preamp would work ?

Also those level controls on the mother ship did they run the speaker out through those to control volume ?

But anyway thanks my task at hand is measuring voltages on 1-2 3-4 5-6 7-8

 :trouble
#29
The Newcomer's Forum / Re: Dukane content
November 10, 2024, 06:17:48 PM
I think I made a monumental discovery today



(Possible) Monumental discovery below:







I think I am missing and or need a preamp


 :grr
#30
The Newcomer's Forum / Re: Dukane content
November 10, 2024, 01:30:41 PM
Thank you sir  :dbtu:

This is gonna be good I can learn something  :tu: because right now it's blowing my mind. 


So maybe I'm not jumping or configuring for 25 or 70v but rather connecting to the speaker terminals as is...

Also is there a correct term for this device (unless mother ship 🚢 is good 👍)

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Is it possibly called a "transport" ?